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What is an "agent"?


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in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

Okay, so if these complex systems like weather and biology are theoretically best described by some ideal set of policies, then would these complex systems, even the stable self-replicating ones be considered non-agentic?

I struggling to see the fundamental difference between a fire that is hungrily eats all the wood in the pile, and me, a person that a hungrily eats all the snacks in the pantry. Unless we're considering some ineffable free well, I mostly see the difference that my systems are much more complex and illegible, making it hard to map out the full causal chain from the biochemistry in my psychology to my hands reaching for a bag of chips.

Combustion is much simpler, but from some all-knowing perspective, they're both self-sustaining chain reactions of chemistry.

in reply to Sam FM

I think fire is actually fairly agentic; e.g. modeling fire like you suggest will work better than modeling "will it rain tomorrow" as an agentic process in the way pre-scientific humans seem to. Like, rain dances and goat sacrifices don't work, but giving the fire more wood does work.
in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

I do think the fire is also much, much less agentic than the person eating snacks, and not primarily because of the complexity difference, but because it's much easier to understand the fire as a simple policy (i.e. describing a simple rule for exactly what it will do given a set of conditions) or as a system made of smaller parts (i.e. describing the chemical process). In some sense this is related to low complexity, but I think there are things that are easy to describe this way while still being very complicated, like a heavily obfuscated computer program that does something simple.
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in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun



How do tools differ from trading partners?


Is it that you model trading partners primarily as agents, and tools primarily as stimulus/response rules?
in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

one relevant difference is that trading partners might optimise against you, while tools generally don't


Are humans more powerful than rats?


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in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

Reminds me of of the "you are bugs" scene in the three body problem.

> And as we go about changing the world to suit our preferences, the rats will remain unconsulted. It seems clear to me that rats will only get what they want, when what they want happens to be nearly-costless to humans.

This seems like it's making progress towards a formalization, though I think it still struggles.

If you imagine that covid virons were agents, then it seems to me that although there's a sense in which we're much more powerful than them, and you know, humanity could, if "it" wanted, defeat them, they can kinda get what they want without enormous costs to humans. And yet humans are still much more powerful than covid virons.

in reply to JP Addison

I'm not sure I understand the last paragraph; my guess is you're saying that covid virions are imposing large costs on humans to get what they want, and yet seem less powerful than humans; is that right?


Hosting providers


Right now superstimul.us is hosted on a Vultr VPS instance. I use Vultr because it's a decently reliable VPS host that offers OpenBSD (though this instance is running in Docker on a Debian system). Much cheaper than AWS; comparable pricing and features with many other VPS providers.

But I just went looking at the prices of competitors, and Hetzner is cheap. How is it so cheap? For roughly the same price I'm paying for this host, I could get ~8x the vCPUs and RAM, and 4x the storage.

It would be a hassle to migrate at this point, but I'm definitely tempted.

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in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

Everything I've heard about Hetzner has been great. It seems like their strategy is to build their own servers and seriously compete on price. My guess is that they'll eventually raise prices, but probably still be cheaper than average.


Notes on the outcome of groups experiment


I think groups are a pretty half-baked feature, and I don't expect people to use them much. A "group" (previously called a "forum", and most of the documentation hasn't been updated to reflect this change) is basically an account that auto-reshares things it's tagged in. You can give it a few different settings for how it responds to follow requests, and another setting for the visibility of its reshares. To administer a group, you have to create a second account for it (which friendica does make relatively easy but not trivial), and then switch to being logged-in "as" the group.

So, yeah I guess it might be useful for coordinating things somehow, and the setting with private reshares is maybe promising (though also marked "experimental"). But it seems much less natural to me than the corresponding concept on Facebook.

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in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

Ah, alas! I think one of the key features of a [facebook] group is that it's styled differently, so you always know when you're reading or posting something "inside" a group. That can give you an instantaneous confidence that you're not messing it up by posting it publicly. If friendica groups are just regular posts with a tag + settings, then I think they wouldn't give people that feeling of confidence.


Some praise for the behind-the-scenes tech I'm using to run this site


  • Tailscale: Lightweight personal VPNs. Tailscale is so good. I don't even need to have an open ssh port on the VPS running this instance, because I can connect over tailscale SSH with zero hassle.
  • Caddy: Caddy is like nginx if nginx cared about usability. e.g. it makes it trivial to put an HTTP service behind a TLS proxy. Like, it even manages the LetsEncrypt certificate for you. Totally wild.
  • Docker, and the official Friendica images especially: I hate developing for containers, and avoid it when possible. But when someone else has put in the effort to make a high-quality container image, deployment is genuinely much easier, even for hosting the thing on a VPS.
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The plan for the beta


Thanks to everyone who's joined to help beta test! I'm very grateful y'all are here! ❤️

My basic plan is to use superstimul.us for the next week, posting here instead of Facebook, getting a sense of the platform so that I can help other people later, and trying to iron out basic issues if they crop up.

After that, I'm going to do a push to invite clusters of people who I'm especially excited about being here. I'll probably reach out to y'all for names of people who are cruxy for your active enjoyment/participation here (feel free to preemptively message me about this!).

Anybody can invite their friends, btw, though I would slightly prefer you held off for now, because I want to be strategic about the launch.

I might do some kind of incentive / costly-signaling scheme where I give $20 or so to the first 30 people who share a substantive post here, and not on other social media? Or something; Not sure about that yet.

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I'm considering going to the southern hemisphere for December and January, to miss the shortest days in California.

New Zealand and Chile both seem like good options: Tons of sun that time of year, good climate, safe cities, relatively cheap. Chile is a lot cheaper, and after having a lot of fun visiting Mexico, I kind of want to try living in a country where I don't know the language.

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in reply to kip

I have in the past, yeah. This past winter I didn't so much, maybe because I was holed up at my childhood house for a lot of it, which was really pleasant / cozy. But I generally dislike super short days even disregarding any depression stuff.
in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

You are welcome to hole up again in your childhood home this winter!

kip reshared this.


I'm really excited for this experiment! Friendica exceeds my expectations in some ways (looks nice, has imo an especially good privacy model, seems easy to update and administer) and falls short in others (ease of finding people, occasional UI weirdness).

Please let me know if you run into any issues and I'll try to fix them or at least help resolve them

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in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

Sure! Yeah overall I'm very enthusiastic about this project. Admittedly there are a concerning number bugs and questionable design choices with Frendica, but I'm not familiar with alternatives. (Also, I don't have a good sense of what is fixable/configurable.)
in reply to Sam FM

Cool, thanks! I looked into several alternatives before choosing Friendica. The thing that comes closest is diaspora*, but I tried it and liked it less, and anyway it seemed a lot harder to host.
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