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Llama 3.3-70b is quite good; I think it's clearly the best local model I've tried. Not quite as good as GPT-4 on things I've tried so far, but I think better than GPT-3.5.
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I'm not sure; I have an MBP with 128GiB of unified memory, which is plenty.


A wind storm two nights ago took a big branch down from the tree my antenna was in, so I took the antenna down until we have a chance to get the tree looked at. Very sad to have to pause my FT8 fun, but even if this is the end for a while I've had a great time.


Pascal's Wager doesn't go far enough:

Granted, the Christian God offers infinite rewards, but as far as I can find this is always in terms of "eternal" life or "eternal" communion with him, and so we can be confident that he is offering rewards only as large as the cardinality of the continuum.

So come on down to Crazy Georg's Omega Plus First Church of G...d: If you can conceive of a God advertising any size of infinite reward, G...d will match it.

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in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

Granted, the Christian God offers infinite rewards, but as far as I can find this is always in terms of "eternal" life or "eternal" communion with him, and so we can be confident that he is offering rewards only as large as the cardinality of the continuum.


FWIW I think it's plausible that the Greek words used in the NT doesn't have this sort of connotation.

in reply to Daniel Filan

I would find this surprising, since I don't model the ancients as having concepts for infinity that could correspond to larger infinities than this
in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

I'm imagining that the words / concepts they used were vague enough to include those higher cardinals - e.g. my understanding is that a lot of the words that get translated as "everlasting" could also be translated as "of the ages".
in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

I found this relevant and interesting chapter from Unsong by thinking "hmm, but Omega is an ancient word in some sense, and it's been more recently used in the context of infinities... and Jesus also referred to 'alpha and omega' to represent something like infinitude. So I can probably make a joke about kabbalah. Oh, but Scott Alexander will have already done that."

unsongbook.com/interlude-%D7%9…

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What compression algorithm did God use to send Jesus to earth on Christmas?




On Friday I tried to show @Daniel Filan how FT8 works, but I was having a really hard time getting QSOs. I was worried something was wrong with my #hamradio antenna setup, since the internet claimed that band conditions should be good. But this afternoon and evening I had a great time and got 17 QSOs across 5 different bands! So I think Friday must have been something transient rather than my (very janky) setup degrading.

I now have confirmed QSOs in 40 states, and unconfirmed ones in all but 3! (North Dakota, Delaware, and Vermont. Almost managed to get one in Delaware today, but wasn't quite able to complete the protocol) Plus 28 "DX entities" (mostly countries, but includes e.g. Alaska and Hawaii separately) on 6 continents!

Map of listening stations that heard me this afternoon:

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in reply to kip

"It is good when people are happy" is one of the things I am going to most prioritize trying to instill in my children.
in reply to kip

I think this is a good direction but encourage you not to completely lose empathy for the other reactions – people who still don't like being interrupted or mansplained to do have their reasons for that and I wouldn't want to respond to their negative reactions by saying "that reaction is unconditionally wrong"


Am now up to knowing five words for types of slave in Latin.


Ended up deactivating my facebook yesterday. I wish I could have emotionally handled whatever was going on, but the only way I know how to productively deal with expressions of anger at that depth, apparently doesn't scale past one or two people at a time.

Last night I felt really conflicted about it. Like, I had just been trying to get people to give me harsh feedback, hadn't I? Doesn't this undermine that, or feel like a petty table-flipping move?

I still have some of those worries, but today I'm feeling like it was obviously the right move. Like if I had a gangrenous limb or something and had cut it off: It's pretty awful that I lost a limb, but it's way better than losing my whole self. Plus in this case I can reattach it if I figure out how to get rid of the gangrene.

in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

what was going on on FB that made you want to deactivate it, if you want to share? the last thing I looked at of yours seemed to be positively received
in reply to Gina Stuessy

I think this was a different post; basically, I wrote a post about the United Healthcare CEO assassination (the gist was, "it's wrong to express glee about someone's death"). It got a decent number of mildly positive reactions, but also a small cascade of intense negative reactions, a couple of which were kinda vicious.

Daniel Filan doesn't like this.



It's so fucking shitty that the easy way to feel better when someone is angry at you is to totally dismiss them as crazy or evil.


Jeroen Henneman, The Long Way Home
From: https://x.com/opancaro/status/186529216161008481


Wilhelm Kranz
From: https://x.com/0zmnds/status/1865291905249980735

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Just realized I've been paying for my old group house's internet for almost three years. I'm out $3000, since there's no way I'm asking them to pay me back all of that; it's my responsibility to look at my own bank statements. Honestly relieved my burn rate will drop, but also I really need to pay better attention to my account statements.
in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

if $3000 is too much to ask them to pay you back, surely they should at least pay you the maximal amount that isn't too much :P

minimally you could be like "I don't think it's fair for me to charge you the full amount but if you could think about what seems affordable / reasonable to you and pay me that I would be grateful"

although tbh I think it kind of is fair to at least suggest they might pay the full amount, even if you don't want to insist on it

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in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

also thank you for this story because I do read and categorise my bank statement line items and sometimes I say this to people and they're like "why do you do this" and it is sometimes hard to have a good answer :P




Have you ever successfully caused yourself to love something that you didn't naturally love? How did you do that? I'm especially interested in cases where you made a conscious decision that you were going to learn to love the thing, and then succeeded via strategy.
in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

My not-quite-the-answer is that I think I've encouraged myself in loving things. There's a feeling of getting obsessed with something that I occasionally notice myself having. I can try to cultivate that intentionally. The most notable example where this felt like a real successful guidance was in getting really into Rust.


it feels to me like in public writing there is an axis of ownership, personal writing vs. collaborative writing, and there's also an axis of completion, from publishing things that are done and no longer changed, to publishing things that are updated and amended and try to reflect your latest thoughts on something.

personal blogs are a thing
collaborative wikis are a thing
collaborative blogs are... somewhat a thing?
personal wikis are... much more rarely a thing?

but I think I want a personal wiki

in reply to Ben Millwood

I use LogSeq partially like a personal wiki, though don't publish it. I've observed some people using Obsidian (including publishing their graphs) basically like this as well.


Okay, I think a worthier target of "whoa, this programming language is cool" than V, is Koka.
in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

The other downside:

the delimited continuations in OCaml must be used linearly – every captured continuation must be resumed either with a continue or discontinue exactly once. Attempting to use a continuation more than once raises a Continuation_already_resumed exception.
It is left to the user to ensure that the captured continuations are resumed at least once. Not resuming continuations will leak the memory allocated for the fibers as well as any resources that the suspended computation may hold.


whereas I think Koka ensures things don't leak and also lets you resume multiple times, so you can do things like this: github.com/koka-lang/koka/blob…

in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

Apparently I was wrong about the standard library not having a sort function - it's just undocumented AFAICT! github.com/TimWhiting/advent-2…

Oh, I see, it's in the community std library: github.com/koka-community/std/…

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the trouble with it being December is that I can no longer say "but it's not allowed to be this cold, it's only [current month]" because December is an Authorised Cold Month


:o

However, I should mention that I may be hallucinating these specific book titles and dates since I don't have access to a current book database.


  • Claude Sonnet 3.6
in reply to Ben Millwood

Kinda interesting that they chose that word to describe LLM falsehoods, like it gives the impression they are constantly having extremely boring trips XD


Gustave Doré
From: https://x.com/0zmnds/status/1863475184344174739
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Misc notes on Latin learning


in reply to Daniel Filan

also it's kinda wild that in chapter 20 of the companion book the teacher is complaining to his slave how much his right arm hurts from beating his students. his solution to the pain? day drinking.
in reply to Daniel Filan

then he has a conversation about how he sucks at teaching and should just give up and live on enough money to buy bread and books

in reply to Daniel Filan

Also, if you have a "national parks passport", bring it! You can get it stamped at the end, which is Land's End, part of the Golden Gate National Recreational Area.


so I've long had an issue with my laptop battery, and e.g. in Windows had to figure out how to configure it from the command line to really never emergency shutdown when plugged in, which inexplicably you can't do from the UI

on Linux I knew it didn't last long, although mercifully I didn't have that issue specifically

Today (after buying a replacement battery at no small expense, but not having fitted it yet) I tried an experiment to try to set a baseline to see if the new battery would really be better, so I started up my laptop not plugged in. As usual, the battery charge reported immediately like 3%, and shortly thereafter 0%, where it stayed for two hours of normal usage before the emergency shutdown kicked in.

Obviously two hours is not a great battery life either, but I was expecting like five minutes and probably wouldn't have bothered buying a replacement if I knew it was capable of that. Oh well.



Victo Ngai
From: https://x.com/opancaro/status/1863111407962599592
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New AXRP! With Evan Hubinger!


This time I won't retract it, I swear!

The 'model organisms of misalignment' line of research creates AI models that exhibit various types of misalignment, and studies them to try to understand how the misalignment occurs and whether it can be somehow removed. In this episode, Evan Hubinger talks about two papers he's worked on at Anthropic under this agenda: "Sleeper Agents" and "Sycophancy to Subterfuge".

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in reply to Daniel Filan

I like how it looks like the AXRP logo is the sun in this thumbnail.


I actually like it when YouTube waits a while to start processing the video I just uploaded. It strengthens my character.



Messed up that Latin became the language of the intelligentsia in the middle ages and therefore has more pedagogical materials available now, when Greek has classical authors you obviously should care more about. Like, it has the philosophers! Not to mention the New Testament (and the version of the Hebrew Bible that the authors of the New Testament were familiar with), the Iliad and the Odyssey, and Greek myths (let's be real nobody cares more about Roman myths than Greek myths). Yes, it's cool that Latin has De Rerum Natura, Apuleius, and Cato, and the tradition of scholarship is a nice bonus. But c'mon!
in reply to Daniel Filan

I further guess this is a cautionary tale about the tradeoff between writing and conquering.
in reply to Daniel Filan

Tbf I think the Romans owned this, they were like 'the Greeks theorize, we get shit done'
in reply to Amber Dawn

It's like the LessWrongers and the EAs. As a LWer myself, I know where my sympathies lie...
in reply to Daniel Filan

LW: democratic and philosophical but also factious and discourse-ridden
EA: run by 1 or 2 extremely powerful guys who sometimes turn out to be deranged and corrupt. A woman called Julia is also involved.
in reply to Daniel Filan

Counter-argument: the point of learning an ancient language is to read the poetry not the prose (since prose is easily translated) and Latin poetry is plausibly better than Greek poetry.



I think web-of-trust is underused for spam and abuse prevention.

e.g. there could be a pretty simple "endorse" button for each account, which is basically saying "I vouch that this person is a real human and not a troll/spammer". Webs/chains of endorsement could be used to prove that someone ought to be able to interact with you. And for any given active interaction attempt ("react", "friend request", "tag"), there could be an opportunity to mark it as "spam", and accounts with lots of spam could become untrusted, and accounts that endorse lots of spam accounts could become untrusted as well.

In principle you could even implement this in an entirely decentralized way with some public-key crypto, though it might be too expensive in practice.



Latin practice day 7


These aren't very inspired but:

I. Cūr quaeque littera Graeca pulchrior est quam quaeque littera Latīna?
II. Sī linguam Latīnam scīre vult, quotiēs quamque litteram Latīnam scrībere necesse est?
III. Vōlōne ā magistrō laudārī?
IV. In Capitulō XVI, quia Dominus Iēsus tempestātem facit apud navem Lydiae? Lydia ā Deō dīligiturne?
V. Num medicus labōrans vērē sanat hominēs aegrōs?
VI. Num parēntēs laudant magister discipulōs verberāntem?
VII. Suntne bēstiolae industriorēs quam apēs? Quid facit illae?
VIII. Quia dea est pulcherrima?
IX. Hōdiē, quae bonae rēs daminī ā deī?

#latinpractice

in reply to Daniel Filan

Hōdiē sum in domō parentum matris mea, in Arizonā. In hāc domō, saepe dormō in lectō parvō in cubiculō parvō, sed hōdiē habeō magnum cubiculum ac magnum lectum. Cēnābam cum parentibus matris meus, et cum amīcīs suīs. Aliī hominēs ēdēbant magnam avem, sed ego edēbam botulōs quī ex holeribus fīunt, nam Pythagoricus sum. Cōnspiciēbāmus pēs-pilam (harpastum? calcifollem? I guess Vicipaedia uses "Harpastum") - Leōnēs Detroitī, quī amantur ā parentēs matris meus, vincēbant contra Ursōs Sicāgoensis!

(I only know the imperfect past tense, forgive me)



Relativistic Newcomb / Sleeping Beauty Newcomb


in reply to Kevin Gibbons

I suspect Relativistic Newcomb doesn't help much. I think most people would say "I'm already in the world where the opaque box contains money" as soon as they were no longer in the past lightcone of the moment where that gets decided, even if they weren't (yet) in its future lightcone either. It's more about whether information can still get from you to it, than about whether information can get from it to you.

The Sleeping Beauty case does seem good, though.

(for the avoidance of doubt, you do not need to explain to me why one-boxing is better :P )



Every country in the world belongs to America


Shouldn't the US buy the Vatican?
- they're rapidly going bankrupt and could use the money
- Trump would go for it
- the US is the new Rome
- would bring the US tons of geopolitical power
- new place to station US troops without any restrictions
- probably will ensure all Americans go to heaven
- zero downsides

Am I missing something?????

in reply to Daniel Filan

Cheaper than it seems because likely individual Americans are going to bail them out anyway.
in reply to Daniel Filan

Currently listening to a podcast episode floating the idea of the Pope issuing a tax on all Catholics. America can fix this.


:o vlang looks... very very cool to me. I am surprised that it's more than 5 years old, since it seems to offer many things that I've been wanting from a programming language and periodically searching for without luck:

  • Sum types
  • interfaces/traits/similar
  • generics
  • Reasonably fast at runtime (roughly on par with e.g. Go, from what I can tell)
  • optional GC
  • cares about development time (e.g. compilation times are fast)
  • cares about various kinds of safety (not as much as Rust, more than Zig). I think there are some substantial tradeoffs here around what happens if you avoid using the GC, since I think there's no borrow checking; e.g. does the stdlib have types that grow and invalidate your references?
  • extremely good cross-platform support (cross-compile GUI libraries for ~any platform including mobile, except that you can only build for macOS from macOS)

Basically it seems like they've added the ~3 features whose lack has made Go unpleasant for me when I've tried to use it.

vlang.io/

in reply to Daniel Ziegler

Yeah, or even Haskell; I always crave traits/typeclasses/interfaces when they're not available.
in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

I think one of the key helpful things about my OCaml experience was learning about how much typeclass stuff can or can't be replaced with other mechanisms (e.g. making it convenient to locally control namespaces so that you can easily specify "I want X from module Y" instead of having it be type-driven).

It both lets you notice when you shouldn't (or at least needn't) be using ad-hoc polymorphism but also when you really do need it (e.g. OCaml I think would struggle to properly replicate Traversable and some other higher-order-polymorphism things).



New episode with Jesse Hoogland!


Another short one, I'm afraid.

You may have heard of singular learning theory, and its "local learning coefficient", or LLC - but have you heard of the refined LLC? In this episode, I chat with Jesse Hoogland about his work on SLT, and using the refined LLC to find a new circuit in language models.

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The island nation of Milliput is divided into two warring factions: those who mix the hardener into the epoxy and those who mix the epoxy into the hardener


@Daniel Filan apparently the "learning ancient Latin and Greek involves example texts about daily life heavily involving slaves" thing dates at least back to ancient Roman schools for learning Greek.

youtu.be/yc-JYUqIsI4?si=k-hcZi…

in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun

Also thanks for the rec! I passed this up based on the thumbnail but it's really interesting!
in reply to Daniel Filan

Yeah I was kind of embarrassed to share it given the title, since apparently I clicked for some reason, but agree that it turned out to be interesting.


Lieke van der Vorst
From: https://x.com/marysia_cc/status/1861148591479288294/photo/1

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Elena and Anna Balbusso
for Little Knife by Leigh Bardugo
From: https://x.com/marysia_cc/status/1861127999581528531/photo/1

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Franz Karl Leopold von Klenze
From: https://x.com/0zmnds/status/1861121676735586756/photo/1

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Chesley Knight Bonestell, Jr.
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Being mean is bad




IMO it's kind of weird that there aren't more blog posts in the rationality-sphere about how to do group house living well. There are a bunch of tricky problems that need solving and opportunities for clever solutions that make people better off, so you'd think there would be much fodder. Possibilities:

  • Maybe people just don't think about it very much?
  • "Group house living" isn't as culturally salient a category as "parenting", so we're not used to writing about it?
  • Most of the problems involve being kind of annoyed at specific people, and so are inherently awkward to talk about?
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in reply to David Mears

Yeah reading this I was like 'wow a lot of our lore is about chores'. I guess because this came up as an issue with us, whereas 'there are conflicts/annoyances with the other people' hasn't come up as much, possibly because two of the relationships were selected specifically for not being mutually annoying :p (and luckily you and Ben seem to not annoy each other that much)

Maybe the main tip is 'try to select people you really vibe with/share living preferences with', and if you manage that you will be well-placed to either not have problems (because your preferences don't clash), or to solve them?