Something really wild to me is the extent to which archaeology seems to believe that artifacts were used for some kind of religious / worshipful purpose.
Like, in the modern world, relatively very very few objects are used for worship. If a future civilization finds a figurine, it's probably a Barbie doll or a Funko Pop or something.
Future civilizations might find our most treasured artifacts and presume that we worship glass rectangles or something.
Seems kinda weird if this is the default assumption for unexplained historical artifacts, as it naively appears (to a non-archaeologist). Like, why do we think that these figurines are fertility goddesses rather than toys or instructional tools or even pornography?
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Recently I've had some physical issues that have kept me from being physically active (not that I'm usually very active, but this has been even worse than normal):
- About a month ago I learned I have a hernia after doing some wood-chopping (which is really fun btw), and I've been having an upsettingly difficult time setting up an appointment for surgery to fix it
- A week after that, I broke my pinky toe by accidentally kicking a staircase in the dark
The hernia has kept me from feeling good about doing any kind of weightlifting, and the broken toe has made it hard to walk more than a few blocks. This kinda sucks and I'm not sure what to do about it.
Maybe I should be cycling more? Anyone have other ideas?
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Camino Day 7
Tui to Mos, 21km. Another beautiful stretch of forest. I stopped early today because I had a big day yesterday and the next stretch of road is supposed to be very hilly.
I had a nice moment in the early morning, running into some bagpipers playing in the middle of the forest. It was cool because you could hear them for a long time before you could see them so there was a stretch that felt very fairy-like and mysterious
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(1) There's some truth to this. Violent islamists are on average, worse than most people in various ways.
(2) But also, they may see it more as a direct insult to God as opposed to an insult to them personally or their human social group. Compare their stance towards practicing Christians and Muslim apostates. Both groups go to hell, on the conventional conservative Muslim understanding. But they are much more bothered by apostates.
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I agree that terrorists are in some sense not serious and tbh I think it's for the best
or rather, second best, behind "not being terrorists"
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I feel like the "introvert/extravert" axis bundles (at least) 3 things together in a kind of unhelpful way:
- low vs high need to socialize
- low vs high gregariousness
- low vs high desire to talk to people you don't know
These are sort of related, but I feel like usually when I hear people talk about extraversion or introversion they would usually be better served by appealing to a sub-factor rather than the bundle.
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Yeah, this seems true. How do you define 'gregarious' separately from the other things?
Other dimensions could be related to social anxiety, awkwardness, and/or masking. A lot of the time when I "don't want to talk to people" or it drains my energy to do so, it's because I feel uncomfortable in the situation, rather than because there's something I inherently dislike/find tiring about talking to people.
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I'm glad you've had a good time with nurses. There's a lot of variance, so I expect many people feel this way overall.
I think there are intermediate cases where the thing really sucks, but it's not quite in the "obviously extremely painful" category, where there can be a significant disconnect between patient experience and provider concern.
Yes -- I think in many of these situations, the provider does not believe that the patient is suffering as much as they claim. As a patient, it's very distressing. I've had a lot of good healthcare experiences as well, but bad experiences have the potential to be intensely bad.
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In this market about how many episodes of AXRP I'll publish in 2024, there's an 11% chance I'll publish less than 9, the number I have published so far. manifold.markets/DanielFilan/h…
(The motivation of the market was to test whether I'd succeed in publishing a ton - in fact, I've been down an editor for a bit which slowed me down, as did having a real job, but I still think I'll beat my all-time record of 10 episodes in 2022)
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Camino Day 6
I'm in Spain now!
Today I turned off the Coastal route and walked inland along the Minho river, culminating in the medieval cities of Valença (on the Portuguese side) and Tui (on the Spanish side), for a total of 29km. I chose to take the cycling path along the river most of the way rather than the official route which runs through several towns. On the way, I came across a huge open air market and bought myself a Weird Little Guy (pretty sure it's Saint Anthony)
The cities were particularly cool. The route runs directly through the old Valença fortifications and as you approach the bridge you can see Tui cathedral on the hill above the river.
Tui is 118km from Santiago. Meaning that I have gone 142km already but also that tomorrow I start collecting my stamps to qualify for the Compostela rather than because it is fun.
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I'm planning to write misc techy blog posts here. I wish when I wrote stuff for a niche audience, I had some way of saying "if this post is not for you, you can filter out posts like these". When I write a post there's a "categories" input field, but I don't yet know what they're for, and I don't see an easy way to configure my ignored categories (maybe this is what channels are for? but I think people don't look at channels / know what they are by default). For the sake of experimentation, I added a "meta" category to this post.
For the time being I'm just going to post stuff and not worry about it, but I'd be interested to hear from people who have already solved this problem.
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Probably you don't want to do it this way, but in principle you could make a sub-user or even a group (i.e. a sub-user that auto-reshares things you tag it in) for this.
I do think you can use channels for this, by making a new channel that excludes the tags you don't want to see. I haven't tried it though.
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This makes me think of how in normal society there are a variety of expensive-to-verify tasks that have their quality/correctness guaranteed by the threat of reputational damage, or even malpractice/liability lawsuits.
Say a civil engineer submits a design for a bridge, and then it collapses on day #2 after the expensive construction is complete. Even if he can't get sued to cover the construction company's loss, he'll have trouble finding work afterwards.
But with internet bounties, generally people aren't laying their expertise and credibility on the line with their suggestions, so there isn't much of an incentive to hold back from offering dubious solutions.
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Camino Day 4 & 5
Castelo do Neiva to Carreço and Carreço to Seixas. Both 22km stages.
As I've gotten farther from Porto the towns have gotten smaller and more of the route had consisted of forest paths and walled alleys, typically routing into town whenever there's a Big Old Church to get a stamp at
The past two days I've been traveling with other solo women that I met on the road, one from the UK and the other from Lithuania, both friendly and enthusiastic. B, who I spent both days with, was excited to learn it was my birthday and told everyone we ran into at the hostel (something I wouldn't have done myself). A big group of us went out for dinner and everyone sang happy birthday in their native language.
I've enjoyed the sense of community among the pilgrims; the one thing everyone has in common is that we're all on a Big Adventure.
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Me to my partner, after complaining about doing something that I mildly regretted:
"Oh well, I guess I have to have *some* flaws, or I wouldn't be relatable"
Incidentally, is tagging a thing here?
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I've done this but it looks ugly:
Apparently this can be controlled with some shenanigans, see StackOverflow. I don't know if that's within the power of @Ben Weinstein-Raun to control?
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Do y'all remember that princeton election guy who forecast a win for Clinton with 99% in 2016? I just found a post-mortem interview with him where he says:
Probabilities are not a good way to convey uncertainty. The first reason being that it’s hard to estimate the true amount of uncertainty, and I discovered that.
I... have never before felt such a strong urge to say "skill issue". But people weren't saying "skill issue" yet in 2016, so nobody got the chance. Time is cruel.
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Sam Wang and Nate Silver had an interesting back-and-forth, if I remember correctly. A friend of mine was convinced that Sam was right and that Nate was “putting his thumb on the scale to cover himself.”
In hindsight, it seems to me that Sam’s approach was more of a straightforward averaging of polls, while Nate’s method is more like a gambler’s—integrating his own beliefs into the model.
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Camino Day 2
Today was more coastal boardwalks, then through a mid-size city, then more coastal boardwalks, then some back roads in farm country. The albergue that I planned to stay at filled up by 3pm and I ended waling an additional 8km, making this a 28km day in total from Labruge to Apulia.
I'm second guessing some of my decisions. I stuck with the coastal route today (meaning I'm committed for the next couple of days) but I had the opportunity to take a more inland route and now I wonder if that would have been more "nature-y". I could have stopped in the city and saved my legs. I could have gotten more stamps if I had planned differently, etc.
Tomorrow will be a shorter day so I can recover. My host says it's easier to find albergues between here and the Spanish border
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How do tools differ from trading partners?
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Camino Day 1
Started from the Sé do Porto and walked as far as Labruge on the Sendo Litoral route for a total of ~24km. The route goes along the coast and is a mix of sidewalk and boardwalk. It was foggy throughout the morning and then cleared up in the afternoon but stayed cool all day. The coast was beautiful.
My feet hurt. I'm going to try to do a similar mileage tomorrow and hope I acclimate to walking
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I just figured out OAuth and wrote my findings up on their wiki at wiki.friendi.ca/docs/api-authe…
I probably will integrate it with flexiprocity, but I'll probably take my time about it. I anticipate it being quite fiddly.
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I'm guessing it's only because I have only 1 friend so far, but I have an empty feed, so I am discovering posts using the circular button in the navbar. It's a confusing interface!
> "The top left icon, with the rectangular grid, is the thing to click in order to see the "Facebook timeline" analogue
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in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun • • •My best guess is that they know a lot about how similar contemporary societies (e.g. hunter-gatherers) behave, and that religion is very infused into many activities we consider secular. Those societies are doing worshipful-X instead of just-X.
I'd guess the fandom-forming instinct also exists in many other societies, but there it's channeled into religion. So Funko-pops might be descirbed as semi-religious objects?
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in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun • •I contend that we do worship glass rectangles.
Nobody thought Christianity was a 'religion' when it was dominant. They thought of it as 'the way things really are' and no one described it in terms of religion.
Our current 'secularism' is also a 'religion' in this same way. We don't see it as religious activity to go to a supermarket or post on Facebook. But ... it is?
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in reply to renshin • •> Nobody thought Christianity was a 'religion' when it was dominant. They thought of it as 'the way things really are' and no one described it in terms of religion.
FWIW I don't think this is true. If you want to talk about the New Testament authors, the last bit of James 1 seems to talk about Christianity as a religion, James and Paul talk a lot about "the faith", Hebrews 11 talks about faith as belief in things unseen and seems to indicate it's a good thing. The proceedings of the Council of Trent talk about "the Christian Religion" (e.g. history.hanover.edu/texts/tren…).
[I mean TBC they also thought it was "the way things really are"]
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in reply to Daniel Filan • •Hmm lemme clarify.
RE: 'Religion' as 'worldview you can select into or out of' -- at the time of Christianity's dominance (which wasn't until much after New Testament being written anyway), no one thought of Christianity as a worldview. They thought of Christianity as the way things really are.
"Religion" was more like those pagan traditions that you could opt into or out of but were clearly wrongheaded, outdated, nonsensical, and everyone knows are made up. That's what I mean.
Now we use 'religion' in the same way, without recognizing that our dominant worldview is also a religion in fact.
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in reply to renshin • •FWIW this wasn't clear from the way I wrote things up but the Council of Trent was held in the 16th century as a reaction to Protestantism. People at the time really did use words like "faith" and "religion" to describe Christianity, altho I'm not sure they would have said you could opt out of it or that it was made up.
At any rate, zooming out, I feel like we can drop the word "religion" and there's still an important thing here. My understanding is that most religious practitioners think that there's something importantly different about the rituals I'd be tempted to call "religious" (e.g. going to mass / church service, sacred artwork, etc) and stuff I'd be tempted to call "secular" (e.g. drinking a can of soda, going on my phone), even when they think mass / sacred art is super important and real. So there's still a live question of "was this pot related to by people back then more like the way believers relate to sacred artwork, or more like the way believers relate to cans of soda".
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in reply to Ben Weinstein-Raun • •This blog series seems to make a distinction between ancient polytheistic traditions (eg. the way people felt about the Olympians) and "religions" (eg. the way people feel about the Abrahamic God). So, ancient people do rituals and make offerings to gods more because they think it's the "way things are" and out of a sort of precautionary principle (maybe the harvest ritual does nothing but you don't want to risk a year's crop on the experiment) but they don't believe that Zeus is personally invested in their struggles or virtues or mental states nor is Zeus asking them to have "faith" in him.
That said, I also don't think we "worship" glass rectangles. Medieval women used to carry a spindle and distaff with them everywhere so the they could do their spinning during any available moment. This was so much a part of life that the distaff became a symbol of femininity but we don't say that these people "worshipped" the distaff; it was a tool.
... show moreThis blog series seems to make a distinction between ancient polytheistic traditions (eg. the way people felt about the Olympians) and "religions" (eg. the way people feel about the Abrahamic God). So, ancient people do rituals and make offerings to gods more because they think it's the "way things are" and out of a sort of precautionary principle (maybe the harvest ritual does nothing but you don't want to risk a year's crop on the experiment) but they don't believe that Zeus is personally invested in their struggles or virtues or mental states nor is Zeus asking them to have "faith" in him.
That said, I also don't think we "worship" glass rectangles. Medieval women used to carry a spindle and distaff with them everywhere so the they could do their spinning during any available moment. This was so much a part of life that the distaff became a symbol of femininity but we don't say that these people "worshipped" the distaff; it was a tool.
I think maybe we do worship Funko Pops though. In the sense that people who buy Funko Pops have the same relationship with the depicted character as an ancient person might have had with Achilles or Cu Cullain.
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